omg eek

[Alex]

Much has happened tonight! I'll post convos now, followed by my thoughts.

[Alex]

spanellers1: hey
OMGHULLOROFL: Hey :-)
spanellers1: how are you?
OMGHULLOROFL: pretty good
OMGHULLOROFL: you?
spanellers1: fine, just finished a party, tired as hell
spanellers1: i'm assuming joe already came to you about voting?
OMGHULLOROFL: yes
OMGHULLOROFL: before noms he did actually
spanellers1: vote stephen out if you aren't nominated?
OMGHULLOROFL: yep
spanellers1: same to me
OMGHULLOROFL: hmm
OMGHULLOROFL: what are you thinking?
OMGHULLOROFL: lol
OMGHULLOROFL: fyi..I did vote for you last round.
spanellers1: here's the problem, nina, joe, and kevin are in this together
spanellers1: i know you voted for me
OMGHULLOROFL: they really are?
spanellers1: you didn't know?
OMGHULLOROFL: nope
spanellers1: wow, even veronica knew about it
OMGHULLOROFL: I was under the impression joe would be targetted next
spanellers1: so, if you and i vote for stephen, it's pretty much game suicide
spanellers1: we're blocked into a corner by 3 people to 2, if we take out stephen
OMGHULLOROFL: what would stephen think if we like...didn't boot him? /:
OMGHULLOROFL: are you sure they are together?
spanellers1: yeah
spanellers1: why didn't joe put kevin on the block, then
OMGHULLOROFL: see..i guess i may have been naive but i was told that that was just a rumor from veronica
OMGHULLOROFL: hm
OMGHULLOROFL: that's true
spanellers1: kevin is the only person other than joe that can buy golden veto
OMGHULLOROFL: hm
spanellers1: who told you it was just a runor from veronica
OMGHULLOROFL: kevin
OMGHULLOROFL: lol
spanellers1: mmmhmmm
OMGHULLOROFL: is there any other reasons that point to them being together?
OMGHULLOROFL: i guess i can see it
spanellers1: remember nina's nominations?
OMGHULLOROFL: sort of
spanellers1: all madrid, i believe
OMGHULLOROFL: oh yeah
spanellers1: isn't it sensible that she was influenced by kevin and joe
OMGHULLOROFL: yeah
OMGHULLOROFL: you are right
spanellers1: kevin and joe are in it together and using nina as a pawn
OMGHULLOROFL: ugh
spanellers1: nina was from paris, kevin from rome, joe from berlin
spanellers1: the only outsider house was madrid
spanellers1: so they all go up
OMGHULLOROFL: i guess i did have suspicions about something like this happening..the game has an odd feeling to it
OMGHULLOROFL: brb
OMGHULLOROFL: back
OMGHULLOROFL: Veronica~ You and I haven't talked much, and I really lyked talking to you today but it would be unfair of me to nominate the other people I've gotten to know alot better. Also, you have alot of Euros that could buy vetos and stuff so that is threatening.
OMGHULLOROFL: could kevin and joe buy veto's at that time
spanellers1: one of them has one now
spanellers1: we don't know who
OMGHULLOROFL: nina is more than a pawn
spanellers1: they could've back then
OMGHULLOROFL: or she is letting herself be a pawn
spanellers1: but it was post nominations
OMGHULLOROFL: cause i awe this game she was in
OMGHULLOROFL: she's really smart
OMGHULLOROFL: she let people think she was a pawn and then won the final challenge
spanellers1: she's allowing them to play her so people underestimate her
OMGHULLOROFL: yeah
OMGHULLOROFL: i love that
OMGHULLOROFL: but it makes me nervous
spanellers1: i don't want to take her out, i really like nina
spanellers1: however, keeping nina in is a person for joe and kevin
spanellers1: nina won't come with us
spanellers1: sorry AIM signed me off
OMGHULLOROFL: it's ok
OMGHULLOROFL: meh
spanellers1: nina won't come with us
spanellers1: on the other hand, stephen would be willing
spanellers1: he has no other alternatives
OMGHULLOROFL: well..I don't think they are alligned. I'm gonna be sure to ask joe abotu this and bring up your name.
OMGHULLOROFL: JK JK JK JK
OMGHULLOROFL: lol
OMGHULLOROFL: sorry
spanellers1: lol
OMGHULLOROFL: i had to do that
OMGHULLOROFL: hmm
OMGHULLOROFL: k so if we do this..how will we handle like
OMGHULLOROFL: telling people
spanellers1: stephen thinks that he is leaving next
spanellers1: we don't
spanellers1: we tell stephen, and that's it
OMGHULLOROFL: ek
OMGHULLOROFL: do you an stephen have an allaince?
spanellers1: otherwise, either joe or kevin will use thier veto
OMGHULLOROFL: yeah
OMGHULLOROFL: put us up
spanellers1: no, but you i and him certainly need to start one
OMGHULLOROFL: and then evict whoever
spanellers1: or we're all goners
spanellers1: this game is 3v1v1v1
OMGHULLOROFL: i woner why jay left last week
spanellers1: we have no chance
OMGHULLOROFL: cause joe was jay's friend
spanellers1: he had money
spanellers1: kevin didn't like that
OMGHULLOROFL: i mean..if he was kevin's friend couldn't they have more influence on him compared to you?
spanellers1: that's what i thought too
OMGHULLOROFL: and wouldn't it make joe mad?
OMGHULLOROFL: or maybe they evicted him to make it seem like they weren't together
spanellers1: jay had enough money to buy enough vetos to give him a free pass to the final four
spanellers1: that has to be it
spanellers1: because kevin knew that jay was either going or it would tie
OMGHULLOROFL: and why did joe put up nina anyway?
OMGHULLOROFL: why not put up
OMGHULLOROFL: me or you and stephen
OMGHULLOROFL: ?
spanellers1: damn AIM
OMGHULLOROFL: what was the last message you got?
spanellers1: spanellers1: or wait, who did stephen vote for?
OMGHULLOROFL: i guess he voted for you
OMGHULLOROFL: joe told me he voted for jay to stay
OMGHULLOROFL: o wait
OMGHULLOROFL: me and joe voted for you
OMGHULLOROFL: nina and joe voted for ja
OMGHULLOROFL: y
spanellers1: did joe vote for me or jay?
spanellers1: to leave
OMGHULLOROFL: joe told me he voted for you to go
spanellers1: see, we really can't tell
OMGHULLOROFL: yeah
OMGHULLOROFL: you promise you aren't lying to me or anything right?
spanellers1: here's something else we can look at
spanellers1: hell no
spanellers1: what do i have to gain by lying to you about this
OMGHULLOROFL: i dunno. sorry..go on
spanellers1: i have no allies
spanellers1: seriously, so lying wouldn't make me look that spectacular, now would it?
OMGHULLOROFL: er...what do you mean?
spanellers1: if i was to go out and lie right now, i have no one to back me up
OMGHULLOROFL: i don't think you are lying but i'm just making sure
OMGHULLOROFL: ok
spanellers1: so, if i am lying, i'm gonna be the next to go
spanellers1: i don't feel overly confident trusting you about it, but i don't have any other choice, and i think i can trust you enough
OMGHULLOROFL: well.we haven't really talked much
spanellers1: exactly
OMGHULLOROFL: but what you say makes sense
OMGHULLOROFL: depresses me a bit though
spanellers1: if you me and steve take the game on end
OMGHULLOROFL: but ah well
spanellers1: we have a 3/4 shot of next HoH
OMGHULLOROFL: and val said that veto isn't usable next round
spanellers1: when?
OMGHULLOROFL: final 5
spanellers1: isn't usable or buyable?
OMGHULLOROFL: at final 7 she said "next round is last round for veto"
spanellers1: urg!!!
OMGHULLOROFL: well that may be good
OMGHULLOROFL: if one of us wins hoh we can sort of control who goes
OMGHULLOROFL: who didn't stephen im me to convince me not to vote for him?
spanellers1: no, because if this round goes like it should, next round would be perfect
spanellers1: what?
OMGHULLOROFL: i dunno
OMGHULLOROFL: he never im's me
OMGHULLOROFL: it feels hostile
OMGHULLOROFL: brb
spanellers1: well, if we could use veto next round and kevin won, we could get him to put you and steve on the block, i have a useless plain veto so i can't use it on myself, i could safe one of you two, and kevin would be forced to put up joe, then we'd boot him

Auto response from OMGHULLOROFL: not here.

spanellers1: if we did win HoH, we'd put both of them on the block, one of them could veto themselves but we'd still have the votes to control the verdict and be sure one of them gets out
spanellers1: but since we can't use veto, we just have to win HoH
OMGHULLOROFL: i don't think veto will work at final 5
OMGHULLOROFL: i may be wrong
OMGHULLOROFL: but from what she said veto wil lbe useless
OMGHULLOROFL: this is just an idea
OMGHULLOROFL: and it's sort of evil
spanellers1: i'll check with her,m but oh well
spanellers1: ok, what is it?
OMGHULLOROFL: well
OMGHULLOROFL: imo it makes no sense for them to make nina vulnerable
OMGHULLOROFL: but they may have put nina up, and then they were gonna veto her
OMGHULLOROFL: and put one of us up
OMGHULLOROFL: just to ensure one of us goes
OMGHULLOROFL: you know what I'm saying?
spanellers1: i need to get an answer from val about this, but i think i should use my veto
spanellers1: do you have a problem with going on the block? you'll be safe for sure
OMGHULLOROFL: yeah
OMGHULLOROFL: that's what I was suggesting
OMGHULLOROFL: are you 100% sure he wouldn't vote for me though?
spanellers1: i'll talk to him tomorrow, but he knows about kevin and joe
OMGHULLOROFL: how does he know about kevin and joe?
spanellers1: and he'd be stupid to take you out, i know it and i think that he knows it
OMGHULLOROFL: ok
OMGHULLOROFL: i think you should jump on it then and use veto now
OMGHULLOROFL: imo
spanellers1: well, everyone knows, at least i thought everyone did
OMGHULLOROFL: nope
spanellers1: i wwant to, but if we can use it next round...
OMGHULLOROFL: besides veronica..why else is it obvious
OMGHULLOROFL: we don't need it next round..if one of us wins hoh we can put up whoever has veto and as long as one of us is voting we'll be fine
spanellers1: well, i started to catch on after nina's nominations
OMGHULLOROFL: cause we only need one vote
spanellers1: it didn't click until veronica said something, but i had suspicions
OMGHULLOROFL: cause hoh will break the tie
OMGHULLOROFL: so we don't need veto next round
spanellers1: but it's a problem if kevin wins HoH instead of us
OMGHULLOROFL: yeah
OMGHULLOROFL: but we'd lose one of us anyway though
spanellers1: without veto, two of us are on the block
spanellers1: no, if i was not on the block
spanellers1: i could veto you
spanellers1: then, joe would be a force nomination
spanellers1: we would take him out 2-0
OMGHULLOROFL: ok
OMGHULLOROFL: well
OMGHULLOROFL: whatever is best
OMGHULLOROFL: i'm just worried now
OMGHULLOROFL: cause if you wait they may use veto
spanellers1: only if it is the last round
spanellers1: if it isn't the last round, we needn't worry, they'll save theirs
OMGHULLOROFL: yes..but why nominate nina though?
OMGHULLOROFL: it makes no strategic sense to me
spanellers1: to make it look like there is no alliance
spanellers1: and since joe can put trust in you and me
spanellers1: by not putting us up, and he can do that without putting kevin up
OMGHULLOROFL: hm
OMGHULLOROFL: ok
OMGHULLOROFL: so you think joe is working me and you
OMGHULLOROFL: and making it seem like nina is not with them?
OMGHULLOROFL: let's look on the board and see if she says anything about veto
spanellers1: i'm searching
OMGHULLOROFL: this'll be crazy if we do this
OMGHULLOROFL: I'm excited now
OMGHULLOROFL: lol
spanellers1: it'll work wonderfully, lol
OMGHULLOROFL: if they catch on we are screwed though
spanellers1: if i use veto, it doesn't matter
OMGHULLOROFL: i feel kind of bad cause i like them, kevin in particular
spanellers1: i know, same for me
OMGHULLOROFL: and I was trying to play the game morally..but eh
spanellers1: but it's a game
OMGHULLOROFL: yeah
spanellers1 signed on at 11:02:13 PM.
spanellers1: sorry, shut me off again, my internet connection sucks
OMGHULLOROFL: it's ok
spanellers1: i just said:
spanellers1: spanellers1: gosh i wish val would get off of her cell phone
OMGHULLOROFL: me too
OMGHULLOROFL: do you think she'll be online later?
spanellers1: i don't know, but i'm worried kevin might've bought the veto instead of joe
spanellers1: and if he wakes up and is here before i am... we're done
OMGHULLOROFL: imo it's a risk but there is a higher chance of success if you veto me now
OMGHULLOROFL: i mean
OMGHULLOROFL: veto stephen
OMGHULLOROFL: and then yeah
OMGHULLOROFL: next round
OMGHULLOROFL: it's still us thre versus kevin
OMGHULLOROFL: three*
OMGHULLOROFL: so we have a better shot at hoh
OMGHULLOROFL: but if we hold off and don't use veto
OMGHULLOROFL: then stephen will be evicted
OMGHULLOROFL: or maybe you or I
spanellers1: ug! i hate this
OMGHULLOROFL: and then kevin and nina will go for hoh against us
OMGHULLOROFL: and i know nina is better at the challenges than she seems
spanellers1: really?
spanellers1: hmmmmm
OMGHULLOROFL: cause she won the final challenge in mana and suprised some people
OMGHULLOROFL: I really have stunk this game
OMGHULLOROFL: oi
OMGHULLOROFL: i need to win hoh or sometyhing
spanellers1: ok, i think i'll use veto, but i gtg now
OMGHULLOROFL: ok
spanellers1: posting in a minute
OMGHULLOROFL: ok
OMGHULLOROFL: ek
OMGHULLOROFL: this is scary
spanellers1: lol, we're all assured F5
OMGHULLOROFL: ok
spanellers1: safety :-)
OMGHULLOROFL: stephen really won't evict me huh?
spanellers1: then. we win HoH, we;re assured F4
OMGHULLOROFL: ok
spanellers1: and a 2/3 shot of next HoH
OMGHULLOROFL: ok
spanellers1: so, the odds are in our favor for both, we should hopefully be in the clear, ttyl
spanellers1 signed off at 11:13:54 PM.